Two famous, firsthand accounts of the holy war in the Middle Ages translated by Margaret R. B. Shaw Originally composed in Old French, the two chronicles. Composed by soldiers who fought in the Holy Wars, these two famous French chronicles are among the most important portrayals of both the dark and light side. Jean de Joinville (c. May 1, – 24 December ) was one of the great chroniclers of medieval France. He is most famous for writing the Life of Saint Louis, a biography of Louis IX of France that chronicled the Seventh Crusade. . In Authority and Gender in Medieval and Renaissance Chronicles. Juliana Dresvina and.

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Preparations for an Assault 9. His work in resolving diplomatic issues and strengthening defenses in the Holy Land shows that his true motive was the restoration of the Kingdom of Jerusalem to its former glory. We are experiencing technical difficulties. Perhaps it is otiose to report though some readers may like sampling and comparingbut I went searching for “Joinville” at Internet Archive and found: His father was a nobleman of Champagne, and Geoffroy became Marshal of Champagne indue to his family connections.

Historical novels seem more daunting than any other genre, yet so very rewarding if done well. The text is divided into paragraphs, each beginning with a gilded letter. If you’re new to the Fourth Crusade, I’d recommend reading Villehardouin’s account along with a modern historical analysis of what’s going on, just to fill in the details, provide additional context, and make yourself aware of some of Villehardouin’s biases.

There is ample evidence of sexual relations, from rapes to what appear to be relatively symbiotic romantic partnerships, between white slave masters and black women in the Antebellum South.

Jean de Joinville

First he gives a very precise and historically relevant account of his campaigns. He is clearly devoted to Louis IX, the king who would later be canonised, but is not afraid to disagree with him at times. Villehardouin, an experienced politician marshal in the county of Champagne and diplomat envoy to and negotiator with the doge of Venicedescribes the course of the crusade in a way that Fernand Braudel would call it “l’histoire evenementielle”.

Why would I read it, then? Nov 30, Suzannah rated it really liked it Shelves: The European civilisation got richer and better by the acquisitions brought back from the East by the crusaders.


There was a poor knight there at the time to whom the abbot had often given bread crhsades the love of God. His biography of St. Allain There is ample evidence of sexual relations, from rapes to what appear to be relatively symbiotic romantic partnerships, between white slave masters and black women in the Antebellum South.

The dryness does not make this a particularly easy read, but it is so informative that it is worth persevering with. As the editor, Shaw, points out, even from the ‘s, a period we may deem less concerned with historical accuracy than now, the biases of each writer are rather evident.

This book consists of accounts of two crusades [the 4th and 7th]. Jul 10, George rated it really liked it Shelves: Villeharouin’s section on the 4th crusade read more like a “behind the scenes” account. Shaw Originally composed in Old French, the two chronicles brought together here offer some of the most vivid and reliable accounts of the Crusades from a Western perspective.

The planning is virtually non-existent, the leadership is distinctly lacking, the aims of the expedition Second Siege to Constantinople Villehardouin’s account of it is clear if somewhat detatched – you’ll get a nice overview of what happened, but most of the main players of the story remain somewhat distant and flat.

Expedition to Saida I developed a soft spot for Joinville reading the book’s introduction – the translator writes that both accounts were most likely dictated as readin I much preferred Joinville’s warmly human account to Villehardouin’s war-correspondent style.

His eyewitness… More about Geoffroy de Villehardouin. Then all the Jews took to flight, and carried their sorely wounded rabbi away with them. The first page is decorated with gold and illuminations, and with a painting representing Joinville presenting his book to Louis. The consequences of the crusades are still felt today.

When Louis returns to France and starts ruling properly, he does, in this account, prove to be an admirable king. Appeal to Arms Most of these combatants did not know that the Muslims had allowed free worship by Joonville and Jews in the Holy Land long before the Pope called for the fist Crusade to take it back.

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David – oh, what a fascinating snippet of information about Conan Doyle. If you’re interested about first-hand accounts of the Crusades, specifically the 4th and 7th, this is the book for you. But that confusion on the translator’s part does not affect her translation. Victory and its Aftermath 9. The book also contains an account of the crusade undertaken by King Saint Louis, which almost succeeded, but for his brother’s idiotic cavalry charge.


If Villehardouin is the professional war correspondent, Joinville is the guy who can’t wait to tell you all about his amazing adventures he had over in the East, from getting captured by Saracens to hearing all kinds of crazy stories about Tartars, Bedouins, and the Old Man in the Mountain.

To be sure, Joinville’s stated intention is to pay tribute to his beloved late King and to justify King Louis’ reputation for saintliness. Joinville’s was a tad more psychological in nature, at least, and he seemed a right honest chap for his times. Son of Simon de Joinville and Beatrice d’Auxonneand brother of Geoffrey de Genevillehe belonged to a noble family from Champagne. He is the grandfather of Sir Geoffroi De Charny, distaff side. However, it did pace along faster and left me wondering if the fall of Constantinople was really an important event as ioinville I like reading primary sources in moinville, so I liked book.

One had fought in the Holy Land with St. It is found in the inventory of of the library of Charles V of France. Sadly, the queen can never take comfort in the platitude “he’s no saint but Shaw, but the descriptions of appalling conditions, fear, brutality, and betrayal are all the work of the original authors.

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This copy chroniclea in the royal library and then passed to Philip the GoodDuke of Burgundybefore reaching Brusselswhere it was lost. On the contrary, Joinville’s Louis can only shine if he shows how very dark the surroundings were.